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know this one?

na, kennz das schon...?





edit: ton einschalten!

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jo

is das ned eh scho hier wo gepostlt wordn? anyway, haut mich irgendwie nicht so vom hocka

und wo sind denn die kreativeren verunglimpfwitzungen damit der durchschnittsmedienkonsument mit der fülle von bluttotmengen die über den äther flimmern fertig werden kann?

grz pht

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einfach widerlich!!!
eigendlich solltest du diesen post wieder löschen
damit das so wenige wie möglich zu gesicht bekommen

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and again sometin useless from tha shitty american brainwashed brainfuckd shitty flashmovies creatin dickheads.
this shit is in the same league as all white trash .swfs as "nuke em back to the stone age" and all the o.b.laden scapegoat movz.
crap,tbh!

watch out for fahrenheit 911, those canting usasses gonna get their stupid patriotic brains kicked, fo real!


i dont see that swf as a joke, but as a perfect entertainment for cnn/reps/bpell fuckers or ppl with a fucked up pov.

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nearly forgot!

claudumb, you seem to enjoy pro-american propaganda! im def. sure, there´ll be more to come in the next years, and you might be one of the few that enjoy the stuff! congratz!

your prize:





and if someone is offended: turn on the tv, give it a few minutes, watch some iraqis gettin killed by some high-tech weaponary, and compare!

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so ein käse..

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haaaach du meine güte..... ....muss man denn immer alles sooooo ernst nehmen.......

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ohjekerl clau, bist ihnen ins offene messer gelaufen?

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@ a-team

why does that "pro-american-propaganda" touch you?
you think, someone should have a little sympathy with saddam hussein? we always watch "contra-american-propaganda", and critizise g.bush, but noone can say anything about hussein...i think thats really strange... i think almost all of us( clau as well) are against war, but just because war has never been a solution, and never will, not because we´re against americanism. (altough,we might be... ) I´m not a fan of george bush, because i doubt his "human- qualities", but somehow , saddam hussein was in a way making fun of him...it´s not that it´s only g.bushes fault that there´s war, it´s aslo s.hussein who provoked it!

honestly, whom would you prefer as a "leader"...someone who kills people who say what they think, who makes up his own rules, who manipulates his people making use of religion.....or someone who kills people that´ve done bad things but being legal, who "tries" to save rules, and manipulates his people, making use of religion,too?

i hope you understand my purpose of this posting, my english is not that good, to explain exactly what i mean...i can´t even explain it properly in german

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i'm not a-team, but...

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why does that "pro-american-propaganda" touch you?
you think, someone should have a little sympathy with saddam hussein?

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indeed, as bush said, you are either with him or with saddam (or bin laden). there is no way that you can oppose both, is it?

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we always watch "contra-american-propaganda", and critizise g.bush, but noone can say anything about hussein...

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I´m not a fan of george bush, because i doubt his "human- qualities", but somehow , saddam hussein was in a way making fun of him...

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poor dubya he's gotta kill people if you make fun of him. that's surely justified.

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it´s not that it´s only g.bushes fault that there´s war, it´s aslo s.hussein who provoked it!

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yeah

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honestly, whom would you prefer as a "leader"...someone who kills people who say what they think, who makes up his own rules, who manipulates his people making use of religion...

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u mean bush? hell no.

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i hope you understand my purpose of this posting, my english is not that good, to explain exactly what i mean...i can´t even explain it properly in german

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2 i menat: if you say sth against hussein, everyone immediately thinks (like you also do) that one is pro america/war

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okay..

zugegebenermaßen: sehr makaber .. aber ich hatte trotzdem nen leichten lächler im gesicht, die idee is gar nicht soo schlecht, aber dieser text dann so im ganzen gesehen -> eher ein wenig traurig..

aber wenn man sich alle diese billigen bush/saddam verarschungen zu herzen nimmt, wird man sicher bald verrückt .. es gibt halt schlechte und noch schlechtere *g* aber letztendlich sind die doch eh vollkommen wertlos für uns und alle anderen .. also es ist nicht der weltuntergang solche kleinen dummen comics und karikaturen halt zu belächeln. was ja wirklich noch lang nicht heißt, dass man diese ganze momentane situation nicht ernst genug nimmt. bitte seids doch nicht so aggressiv ihr leute

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as far as i know sind alle beteiligten dieser diskussion der deutschen sprache mächtig. brauchts euch also nicht abmühen hier...



@salamander: booh your english is better than my german

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thats bull.

just because being opposed to the iraq-war means that you are somehow "with" terrorists like bin laden or dictators like saddam?

i dont think so.

this black and white crap pisses me off. obviously your horizon only goes as far as dubya's and you see the only way dealing with a retarted texan and his warmongers in feeling sympathy for some punkass killer scum.

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@flu :

imo .. irrst du dich ..
der springende punkt ist ..
wenn sie eine manipulierte statistik rausbringen ... zb .. wie viele leute in US für den krieg sind .. wird es zwar stimmen geben ... die sagen .. "hei das is manipuliert" .. aber im endeffekt .. zeigens doch alle ... präsentieren die zahlen ... jo .. und das merken sich die leute dann auch .. selbst wenn sie irgendwo mal hören .. das die statistik manipuliert war .. jahre später werden sie trotzdem genau die zahlen der statistik wiedergeben ..
und das ist .. was zählt .. weils geschichtsschreibung ist!

dasselbe is dieser movie .. du kannst sagen ... nicht ernst nehmen .. drüber lachen ... oke
aber die worte werden sich in dein gehirn brennen .. gemeinsam mit der restlichen propaganda ..
und wenn sie in 10 jahren über den krieg berichten .. werden die meisten das erzählen .. was sie sich am besten gemerkt haben ... die US propaganda ...

is ja auch jetzt schon so ..
keiner hinterfragt .. was "geschehen ist" ..
es wird "nur jetzt" gelogen und propaganda betrieben ..
aber das is deffinitiv falsch ..

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bla bla bla bla

sorry but
nottin' mo' to seh...

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thats bull.

just because being opposed to the iraq-war means that you are somehow "with" terrorists like bin laden or dictators like saddam?

i dont think so.

this black and white crap pisses me off. obviously your horizon only goes as far as dubya's and you see the only way dealing with a retarted texan and his warmongers in feeling sympathy for some punkass killer scum.

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didn`t get the irony in jay`s post ???

read the whole post that he quoted and the whole of his reply and you`ll see,...

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@ a-team

why does that "pro-american-propaganda" touch you?
you think, someone should have a little sympathy with saddam hussein? we always watch "contra-american-propaganda", and critizise g.bush, but noone can say anything about hussein...i think thats really strange... i think almost all of us( clau as well) are against war, but just because war has never been a solution, and never will, not because we´re against americanism. (altough,we might be... ) I´m not a fan of george bush, because i doubt his "human- qualities", but somehow , saddam hussein was in a way making fun of him...it´s not that it´s only g.bushes fault that there´s war, it´s aslo s.hussein who provoked it!

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word!

und danke....hab schon gedacht, hier sind alle einer paranoia oder der irak-propaganda verfallen


möglich, dass dieses kleine trickfilmchen als propaganda ausgelegt werden kann.

möglich, dass es sogar zu propagandazwecken hergestellt wurde. was weiß ich.

ich persönlich halt mich (trotz meines neuen nicks claudumb ) - für so intelligent bzw. aufgeklärt in bezug auf die ganze propaganda-sache, dass eine kleine song-verarsche, in der ein virtueller saddam herumsingt, wie böse er nicht ist, mich sicher nicht dazu bringt, "ihnen" ins "offene messer" zu laufen.
ich frage mich, wer sich überhaupt von sowas derart beeindrucken lässt, dass er/sie vielleicht seine meinung über diesen krieg überdenkt? das funktioniert mittels so eines "scherzerl" sicher nicht mal bei zehnjährigen.

solche witze (ob man sie witzig findet, sei dahingestellt) haben ein prinzip inne ---> sie sind satirisch aufzufassen. und satire übertreibt nun mal gerne, was dann folglich so viel heißt wie, dass man nicht alles in satiren für voll nehmen darf, und dass sie keinerlei wahrheitsanspruch haben. aight?

dadurch, dass ich mich und den großteil der boarduser für so selbstdenkend halte, hab ich kein problem damit gehabt, ein flash (isses ein flash? keine ahnung...) da zu linken, dass halt ausnahmsweise nicht gegen bush gerichtet is.
is schon mal wer auf die idee gekommen, bush-flashs als propaganda zu "entlarven", und dem poster zu unterstellen, hier propaganda weiter voranzutreiben

"saddam from irak" is natürlich vollkommen oag, scheiße und sollte ich wirklich nicht gepostet werden....ein bushinator natürlich schon, weil es is ja so furchtbar kewl den bush zu verarschen, und irgendwie kommt mir langsam vor, dass der saddam eh ein ganz lieber is, oder nicht? über den darf man ja nix sagen....man darf ihn nicht mal ein bissi verarschen


machtz euch keine sorgen, leutz....ich bin nicht zu den ach-so-gschissenen amis übergelaufen.....und ich lauf auch nicht zu den irakis über....ich hab meine meinung zu dem krieg --> dass ich ihn scheiße find, mich aber auf keine seite stellen will, weil imo beide seiten eine menge dreck am stecken haben.

ich hab gedacht, dass meine einstellung zu dem thema langsam jedem bekannt sein sollte, der sich halbwegs für meine meinung interessiert bzw manchmal meine posts liest. und wer das nicht tut, sollte vielleicht beschimpfungen und unterstellungen, welche propagandasender ich mir reinzieh', besser lassen.


fazit:
ich find die aufregung in diesem thread irgendwie ein wenig lächerlich

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well, try to get the obvious sarcasm that exists in some of these posts-doesnt look like all of the posters above get it..

there´s no black and white, no question bout that both participating parties are shit in this conflict, fo sure. 2 maniacs on opposing sides dont make this conflict easier, and black and white surely doesnt exist anymore (we´re not into austria against rapid, are we? - life must´ve been simple back in the days of the cold war). but what drives me nuts is the fact that the american propaganda / news machinery (somehow quite the same :T2: ) is stupid enough to believe, that the black and white stuff still exists all over the world.
everybody should get his information he believes in / or takes grant in a way together by bits and pieces! theres no one that gives you the whole truth - everybodies opinion is constructed out of many little jigsaw pieces. and its important to know, that opinions can change with every new article or else. who knows whats right or wrong? the bbc got kicked by blair for being pro-iraq, saddams machinery works quite the same as western media (funny fact that some western papers wrote that they believe more in iraq´s war documentation than in the us´), and the kings of talking shite, the american media, if consumed exclusively, are for the simple minded patriots.

since theres no independent objective media all over the world, and never will be, everybody has to get his information together on his own. it´s just shitty that theres too much information, isn´t it..and everybody is so fucking subjective...

i just dont 'know' (and i don´t think its easy to 'know' anything in this conflict) enough to have an opinion that suits my brain. way too many different aspects! the only thing that´s wrong for me from my point of view are these crazy americans playing world police. but if you are an iraqi citizen, and saddam´s ppl got a pick on you because of your religion, your thoughts or whatever, it may be a solution that he gets removed. but who is in the position to decide how it should be done? and who the fuck knows how it wouldbe to live in the iraq without the embargo? money cures a lot of things, and money normally softens the religious grip on people, if you think of some neighbouring countries. but i have a feeling that the iraqis won´t see a lot of their oil money - dont know why :T2:



but posting a really shitty comic styled flash animation, that shows one of the tools of american media (keeping the blood, suffering and pain out and bringing computer game / comic style in), mixed with 10 yrs of bombing a countries economy down, and being amused about it? thats how it works, isnt it?







one of my fav thread on doa !



featuring the lines that 'saddam has a giant paper shredder to execute his enemies' and 'finally we have a real patriot in our midst'

//removing the pic from above to make it easier to read . A-TEAM feature of the day. and yes, i do know theres a strange "war" section on this board, but firstly, i dont know if this way of dividing the crap-funny from the more serious stuff is the right way, and secondly, i dont know, if i can post there :T2:

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no automatic formatting?

i dont feel touched by american propaganda, but it sucks to see that it works.

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word!

und danke....hab schon gedacht, hier sind alle einer paranoia oder der irak-propaganda verfallen

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ich habe keine ahnung, wie irak-propaganda aussieht. davon kann man nur im irak selbst was sehen/hören/lesen.

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na gut....wenn das so ist, dann hab ich auch keine ahnung, wie usa-propaganda aussieht. davon kann man nur in den usa selbst was sehen/hören lesen......oder

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hmm, nicht wirklich. satire ist was anderes. der witz, den du gepostet hast ist chauvinistisch, nicht satirisch.

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satire --> (literatur)gattung, die menschliche unzulänglichkeiten in spöttischer oder bissiger weise kritisiert.

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das ist der beweis, dass du von der amerikanischen propaganda beeinflusst bist.

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danke, echt lieb von dir, dass du an mir studien über wirkung von propaganda durchführst, ich fühle mich äußerst geehrt
und, oh ja, jetzt wo du es sagst, fallts mir auch auf...ich bin ein opfer amerikanischer propaganda

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saddam ist ein diktator, keine frage, aber für diesen krieg ist nur die amerikanische regierung verantwortlich.

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und gleich nochmals danke, dass du meine meinung/einstellung zu dieser sache als unrichtig abtust. die meinungen anderer sind eh scheiße, gell?

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na gut....wenn das so ist, dann hab ich auch keine ahnung, wie usa-propaganda aussieht. davon kann man nur in den usa selbst was sehen/hören lesen......oder

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die amerikanische sowie die irakische führung haben gemeinsam:
1. einige islamische staaten würden beide gerne nicht mehr an der macht sehen.
2. scheren sich einen dreck um die meinung der bevölkerung
3. scheren sich einen dreck um die einhaltung der menschenrechte.

wer schlussendlich die opfer sind: die (zivil)bevölkerung.
die amis quetschen die irakische bevölkerung aus (wollen es bald oder tuen es eh schon indirekt) und die irakische führung (hussain) tut dies ebenfalls.

edit: <<the baath party is secular>> korrekt und sehr wichtige tatsache auf welche einige/viele konflikte innerhalb der islamischen welt um den irak herum beruhen.

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