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weedy
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was is jetzt eigentlich

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mit sidechaining kannst z.b die bassdrum vom mix besser hervorheben..
jedesmal wenn die bassdrum kommt kannst über sidechaining spuren kurzfristig mit einen limmiter leiser machen
somit kommt die bassdrum besser hervor
wennst z.b a laute subbassspur hast würd die bassdrum ohne sidechaining untergehn
mit machts genau wenn der bassdrumpeak kommt die subbassspur leiser..

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was is ein limmiter ?
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stimmt .. sollte limiter heißen

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und wie mach ich einen coolen wobblebass?

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<- zum guggen

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<- zum guggen




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dj_konkav
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alles sidechain oida

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alles sidechain oida


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obs.neurosis
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wennst z.b a laute subbassspur hast würd die bassdrum ohne sidechaining untergehn
mit machts genau wenn der bassdrumpeak kommt die subbassspur leiser..




FAIL!
dann ist hauptsächlich der falsche umgang mit eq' s der fehler...bzw. mit der lautstärke!

klar kommt die kick grundsätzlich mit sidechaining besser zur geltung.
der punkt ist aber eher der, dass durch sidechaining ein bewusster pumping effekt erzeugt wird!
viele artists verwenden garkeine sidechain compression und der mix ist trotzdem fett

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mit sidechaining kannst z.b die bassdrum vom mix besser hervorheben..
jedesmal wenn die bassdrum kommt kannst über sidechaining spuren kurzfristig mit einen limmiter leiser machen
somit kommt die bassdrum besser hervor
wennst z.b a laute subbassspur hast würd die bassdrum ohne sidechaining untergehn
mit machts genau wenn der bassdrumpeak kommt die subbassspur leiser..



is des ned a sogenanntes "Ducking"?

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xlend
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jo so is es

jo ducking is eine form des sidechains...

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obs.neurosis
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jo ducking is eine form des sidechains...

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jo, die tatsache, dass man sich mit einem eq und einem sidechainfähigem compressor ganz einfach einen de-esser "bastl" kann, geht an den meisten vorüber

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viele artists verwenden garkeine sidechain compression und der mix ist trotzdem fett

obs.



dann wird aber meistens viel mit envelope gearbeitet was im grunde genommen auch nix anderes is

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ADSR

jo eh

wenig attack
und kurze decay zeiten ...


erziehlt in etwa den gleichen effekt

a bissal klugscheissen am rande

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weedy
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kein plan um was es geht .. hahahaha

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obs.neurosis
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kein plan um was es geht .. hahahaha


na oida, du tust da nur posts sammeln!
raus aus dem studio du chit chat monster


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d²³fence
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sagt ja keiner das ichs so tu .. sondern eine möglichkeit sidechaining anzuwenden..
i persönlich mach das mit selektierter sampleauswahl

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na oida, du tust da nur posts sammeln!
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pssscht ich hab da ne gute disskusion lostreten.. is ya jetzt hipp über sidechaining zu labern hab cih ma sagen lassen

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in letzter zeit reden alle nur noch über sidechaining

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in letzter zeit reden alle nur noch über sidechaining


na weils seit 4.5 cubase auch kann

aber sidechain is eh überbewertet...ist doch seit der daftpunk - homework schon sooooo ausgelutscht.

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und wie mach ich einen coolen wobblebass?


rate spielen...fertig



noch nen scream4 drunter und dann mit der lfo spielen.

hoff damit jede wobble diskussion im keim zu ersticken...

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na weils seit 4.5 cubase auch kann



is vorher auch schon gegangen, aber halt zaach umständlich....

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na weils seit 4.5 cubase auch kann

aber sidechain is eh überbewertet...ist doch seit der daftpunk - homework schon sooooo ausgelutscht.




daft punk - around the world!

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war da grad aufs album fixiert...

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