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ScOOp
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Reg.: Feb 2003
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es bleibt halt alles nach wie vor geschmackssache.. vielleicht taugt ihm die geschwindigkeit nicht..
ich kann mich bei Techno-BPM-Zahlen auch nicht wohl fühlen... is halt so

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Se.Vero
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Reg.: Jun 2004
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na klar is geschmackssache..
aber zaach und liegestuhl-lounge musik geht anders als das was dubstep zur zeit mit den dancefloors dieser welt aufführt..
nur vermeintlich langsam, fühlbar aber auf 150 bpm oder nochmal das doppelte, mit vielen kleinen uplifting breaks, und trotzdem genug freiraum dass man die bassline auch wirklich spüren kann.. fast wie uk hardcore anno '91.

fühl mich momentan mit dubstep wies mir mit dnb vor ca. 8 jahren gegangen is.. und hat genau das feeling das mir seit jahren auf viel zu vielen dnb partys irgendwie gefehlt hat.

dubstep ist für mich neuer jungle.
und aus.

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andi.(resident)
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Reg.: Jul 2006
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true that severo

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dubstep wirkt auf dnbler deshalb langsam weil die breakz oft nur auf 80 bpm rennen - bei dnb sagen die drums dass du tanzen MUSST - bei dubstep sagen die synthies dass du tanzen solltest
diese spannung zu den synthies, die um die 140bpm (plus pitch klarerweise ) haben is der grund warum soviele verschiedene leute einen zugang finden und es dennoch so abgeht im club

leute wie caspa, ntype, rusko, skream etc haben im club null mit dem image zu tun was dubstep durch paar chiller releases hat

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Se.Vero
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Reg.: Jun 2004
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das witzige is ja dass auch die sogenannten "chilla" releases im club eine unglaubliche spannung aufbaun können, die viel eher zum bouncn als zum wegtrickern einladen.
ghost note feelin..

70/145bpm ftw..

dnb is heute einfach nur noch recht eindimensional auf 180 bpm fühl- und tanzbar, und lässt da recht wenig möglichkeiten offen..

also wörd andi..
und danke nochmal fürs bier letzten freitag.

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fuck dubstep!

EDIT: na geh, mag nicht irgendwer fuer diese öde diskussion einen eigenen thread eröffnen?

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quote:
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true that severo

@die 140bpm (plus pitch klarerweise )




genau das is das problem

dabei schloft do des gsicht ei euda..

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quote:
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dabei schloft do des gsicht ei euda..


...schon mal dran gedacht daß man zu schnell unterwegs is?

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dubstep ist für mich neuer jungle.
und aus.




pfui!

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pfui!



ich schreib ja nicht umsonst "für mich". muss ja nicht alles p.c. sein heast.

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koe
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ich schreib ja nicht umsonst "für mich". muss ja nicht alles p.c. sein heast.



du bist nicht der einzige, der so denkt...

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du bist nicht der einzige, der so denkt...




pfui pfui pfui pfui pfuuuuiiiii!

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obs.neurosis
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Reg.: Feb 2005
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LOL³

wohl noch nie auf einer gscheiten dubstep party gewesen hmm?

sie haben keine ahnung mister, KEINE AHNUNG!!




ich hab nix gegen dubstep, aber für mich ists halt beim fortgehn ein bissl ermüdend...
und ja, das liegt einfach an 70bpm drums...

ich stell mir das z.b. extrem edel in einem kino vor,
das eine sehr sublastige anlage hat und visuals über die leinwand... (das würde dann auch ganz interessant mit surround delays kommen...)

@ andi resident...
ich weiss eh, dass die beats halftime von ca. 140 bpm gebastelt sind...aber für mich sind drums einfach die treibende kraft

aber das mit dem kino sollt sich wer mal durch den kopf gehn lassen,
da wär ich fix dabei!


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ich hab nix gegen dubstep, aber für mich ists halt beim fortgehn ein bissl ermüdend...
und ja, das liegt einfach an 70bpm drums...

ich stell mir das z.b. extrem edel in einem kino vor,
das eine sehr sublastige anlage hat und visuals über die leinwand... (das würde dann auch ganz interessant mit surround delays kommen...)

@ andi resident...
ich weiss eh, dass die beats halftime von ca. 140 bpm gebastelt sind...aber für mich sind drums einfach die treibende kraft

aber das mit dem kino sollt sich wer mal durch den kopf gehn lassen,
da wär ich fix dabei!


obs.




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Reg.: Oct 2003
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...schon mal dran gedacht daß man zu schnell unterwegs is?



naja zu schnell

ich steh irrsinnig aufn style vom rohan(bassbin)

und soo schnell is das normal ned :>

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...ich stell mir das z.b. extrem edel in einem kino vor...


LOOOOOL

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oder in an tantra puff

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mat
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Reg.: May 2001
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...also ich find dubstep super - bin ein richtiger fan! zumindestens wenns ihn dort spielt wo ich nicht bin!

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...also ich find dubstep super - bin ein richtiger fan! zumindestens wenns ihn dort spielt wo ich nicht bin!


du erkennst ja nedmal die hits wennstes im flex hörst und kannstes richtig dem genre zuordnen

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stimmt - ich bin die volle genrenull - ist ja aber auch nicht leicht - was es da alles gibt, da ist ja fast jede nummer ein eigenes genre

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jay-s
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Reg.: Jun 2001
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es ist interessant, dass jetzt ausschließlich diese half-tempo sachen mit dubstep in verbindung gebracht werden. erinnert mich an mit the bug, wo er sagt:

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(...) every scene when it first blows up has that big genesis of ideas where it all blows up. The initial bang is the most exciting time, that’s for sure and in a way it is a very exciting time at the moment (...) I cant really help but take a look back as well to try and assess what’s sort of going on in the scene because when DMZ had its first anniversary, when it moved upstairs, that night was a turning point for me and not just a positive one. Its great for Mala and its great for Digital Mystikz for all the hard work they've put in these past three years but for me, at that night, suddenly the audience seemed more like a drum n bass audience, it seemed more white, it seemed more male, the formula seemed to be almost there then so that was the first night I really noticed there was emerging a really strong formula like in drum n bass, like all the tracks were starting to sound a bit like Coki or Skream. And Skream also that night was rewinding every track which i thought, well the crowd weren't even generating so much interest for him to do that, so it seemed like a lot of hype and an audience that I thought were maybe a little too closed.

"the formula seemed to be almost there". vielleicht ist es jetzt schon soweit. wenn das der fall ist, und wenn man bedenkt, dass jungle "the original bang" war, aus dem dnb entstanden ist, dann ist dubstep nicht "neuer jungle" sondern "neuer dnb".

lustig finde ich auch, dass sehr viele menschen dnb headz als gefahr für dubstep sehen

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die quote triffts verdammt gut..

white-male-rage-step... haha..

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lustig finde ich auch, dass sehr viele menschen dnb headz als gefahr für dubstep sehen



wieso?

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wieso?



weil sie bewaffnet sind vielleicht?

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weil sie bewaffnet sind vielleicht?



?? in wie fern ??

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wieso?


es steht ja oben, was solche menschen von dnb headz halten. das publikum hat bei allen elektronischen musikrichtungen einen großen einfluss auf die weiterentwicklung der musik, und es wird erwartet, dass dnb headz auf dubstep den gleichen einfluss haben werden, wie davor auf jungle.

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