Reg.: Jun 2001
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hab gehört....das in den USA nur pur geraucht wird viell. ist das der Grund

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aehm naja...

chris burden lebt und arbeitet in kalifornien zb....das Art Center in pasadena is wohl eine der angesehensten kunstschulen der welt....und wenn film und theater, respektive schauspielerei nix mit kultur zu tun hat, was dann?!

ich will jetzt da keine lanze fuer kalifornien brechen, war auch net soo gluecklich mit den amis dort, aber 30000000 leut aus einigen 10000 km entfernung in einen topf zu werfen find ich dann doch etwas vermessen...

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...und ausserdem seh ich grad, die sind beide garnicht aus kalifornien...

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wer zeit hat, kann noch aus dieser auflistung artists aus californien suchen....

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wer wirft was in einen topf?

ich sag nur dass kalifornien und la für mich nicht das mekka der hochkultur ist - ich kenn keinen künstler aus kalifornien - fallt dir einer ein?

...und theater und theaterschauspiel is natürlich kunst, diskutieren kann mans bei indy filmen oder kunstfilmerei, aber in einem hollywoodschinken für 20 millionen us dollar zu spielen hat nix mit kunst sondern mit kommerz zu tun!

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ja, und ich kenn kuenstler aus CA...hab ich ja eh schon geschrieben....ManRay waer auch noch einer....und das mit den hollywoodmegablockbusterproduktionen ist eh klar...ich red aber von schauspielerei an sich...

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...ich könnt zu dem was ich eh vorher schon geschrieben hab noch die grausame situation im gesundheits und public transportation sektor erwähnen, genauso wie die ziemlich elende situation am jobmarkt usw usw...

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Amerika ist einer der grösste Musikmärkte und dort ist einfach die meiste Kohle zu machen.

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@ kultur diskussion:

'amerikaner' haben keine richtige kulturelle vergangenheit, weil's schließlich alles nur europäer, afrikaner und asiaten sind.

und deren weltweit etablierte 'kunst' (musik/film/whatever) kommt auch nur von dort, weils mitgebracht wurde. dort hat sie halt viel mehr möglichkeiten der entwicklung gehabt, weils ja eben sonst nix gab, was zu erhalten und zu pflegen war/ist (wir haben ja unsere kultur und unsere 'bräuche' und so stuff) deshalb gibts ja überhaupt kommerz, weil dort sozusagen viel mehr 'raum' für diese entwicklung war. bei uns gabs/gibts ja weder zeit noch platz für SOLCHE extremitäten.

....glaub ich zumindest

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Location: Fasan Viertel
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England....Ich war mal dort I didnt like it that much...I came to Europe....Hallelujah!!!!
Ive been here 12 and a half years now,the 13th jubilee kommt 31 october and I havent regretted a minute...
My parents always say dont bother coming love we hate you!!
Na,they just say no jobs,to expensive,flats prices in london are a joke (my brother ended up living on a house boat,cos its cheaper to live in a cabin then in a small flat)
And from the Austrians I know that live there,well they are still there they still like it but they work like mad to survive...
If you smoke fags it costs twice as much,if you like a good beer it costs 3 times as much...the licensing laws regarding Alk are a joke(see the notting hill thread)and of course you have the Criminal Justice bill,Tony(Bush)Blair.....
I must admit that the food is better than you all think,but in London english cuisine is rather ugly....
I cannot stand the London Accent at all....
Cars are cheaper(wonder why that is )and this England/europe divide also gets on my nerves...
Naja I could go on for ever....Education system/social services/national health/buses,trains,people.....
I am happier here...
In regards to the USA....NYC would do it for me but only when the BUSH party fuck off,the world domination stops,I dont have to give all my personal details away,they reinstate the Transit flights,
they make cocaine legal,Arnold for governer would also be a good reason for not going to California....
But NYC has its reiz and I would eventually love to go and live there for a couple of months.....
The way things are going it looks like I have to wait a few years though....
Smash is looking forward to it and I wish him all the best out there........
Just have to wait and see what happens but I am not optimistic
and feel sorry for the millions of U.S cits.that think European and want their freedom back.....

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Reg.: May 2002
Location: 3rd one
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ich hab ja auch vor nächsten sommer 2, 3 oder 4 monate hin zu gehen und zu arbeiten, will mein praktikum dort machen und nachdem die usa in meinem gebiet ziemlich führend ist, will ich halt n paar experiences bekommen

ein weiter grund ist außerdem der, dass ich zusützlich sicher ziemlich viel bessere skills in english bekomm
noch n grund is, dass ich immer mal hin wollte für n urlaub oder so, aber eben nicht hinziehen ... schaus mir also mal an

nicht zu vergessen ist, dass ein praktikum im ausland immer sehr gut in einer bewerbung zieht

einfach mal wieder ne weitere perspektive bekommen, neues kennenzulernen

ich glaub auch dass es viele von diesen pistolenpatrioten gibt, dass aber sicher nicht 100% sind ...

shootings ist ne andere sache, ich denk mal ich kann mir aussuchen wo ich hingeh und es gibt sicher auch weniger gefährliche clubs ...

ich assoziier diese monate also eher mit einer erfahrung fürs leben

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ich sag nur dass kalifornien und la für mich nicht das mekka der hochkultur ist - ich kenn keinen künstler aus kalifornien - fallt dir einer ein?

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..und der ganze l.a. streetfunk shite... hatte sicher keinen unerheblichen Anteil an der weltweiten "verhiphoppung" der pop-kultur.
"hochkultur" á la kammermusik oder theater-avantgarde aus l.a. fällt mir auch nicht ein, liegt warscheinlich daran, daß ich mich damit nicht auseinandersetze

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ich hab an meine us-aufenthalte grösstenteils positive erinnerungen. gibt wohl für jeden etwas dort. klar, den bible-belt sollte man als liberaler mensch eher meiden, über die medien wird man sich des öfteren wundern (mehr als in italien?) und nicht jeder braucht 24/7 food courts an jeder strassenecke. bleibt aber noch genug lebenswertes über.
zumindest in san francisco sollte man sich vor irgendwelchen redneck attacken sicherfühlen können. schöne stadt, "linksliberal" und very european. ditto für new orleans minus das "linksliberal".
new york is halt nur was für jemanden dem sowas taugt.
die amis die ich kennengelernt habe sind privat größtenteils okaye leute, in rudeln werden sie halt oft zu arschlöchern.

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Reg.: Jul 2003
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meine 2 cents zu dem thema -

meine family ist vor 6 jahren nach san francisco ausgewandert, ich bin hier geblieben.
mir war das schon damals zu strange. mittlerweile ist es dort politisch sicherlich noch ärger geworden. trotzdem finde ich es nicht ganz richtig, sich über amerika generell aufzuregen, während man hier in wien sitzt, obwohl ich das natürlich auch manchmal tue.

für uns sind die usa das land, in dem alle mit waffen rumballern... und für die ist europa der ort, wo die leute weder tischmanieren haben noch zahnseide verwenden...

- was solls!

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trotzdem finde ich es nicht ganz richtig, sich über amerika generell aufzuregen, während man hier in wien sitzt, obwohl ich das natürlich auch manchmal tue.

für uns sind die usa das land, in dem alle mit waffen rumballern... und für die ist europa der ort, wo die leute weder tischmanieren haben noch zahnseide verwenden...

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I dont agree......U:S:A is a land whos aussen politik(and that since the ATOM BOMBS were dropped on Japan)sucks totally,I have nothing negative to say about the typical american peeps who are just peeps like us.....friendly,curious,crazy and angry at the system that fucks them up big time.....
That its easier to get a weapon in U.S.A than here bezweifel ich
after all Europe has undergone more major wars not so far from the Austrian Grenze and all that not so long ago.....
That the Americans are trigger happy or more trigger happy than Europeans is also Fraglich....
Look at London,....I can remember that New Years Eve shooting in London where 2 girls got killed in a drive by...and things like that happen every bloody week and not just in London...
Every Farmer in the U.K has a shooter....A lot of the so called Travellers had shooters,the Criminal Underground in the U.K have shooters....
Look at what was going on in the U.K Garage scene....
I know Im generalising a lot here but to immediatlly think that the AMIS are a bunch of waffen hungry idiots and to think that we in Europe are generally a more peaceful race is a vast massive mistake....In my opinion...
Its the U.S aussenpolitik that drives us mad and its unfair to direct our anger at all the peeps when in reality only few are responsible for the chaos that rules our planet at the moment

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I dont agree...... I know Im generalising a lot here but to immediatlly think that the AMIS are a bunch of waffen hungry idiots and to think that we in Europe are generally a more peaceful race is a vast massive mistake....In my opinion...

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is ja eh einer am board er auch am weg nach amerika is....

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Reg.: Jan 2003
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@MATT,
absolutely right,me just generalising and tipping in between selling records to mad people...........
More weapons????hmmm,dont know about that.....ehm. Yugoslavia,Albania,Macedonia,Czech,Poles,Georgia,L
at,Lit,Est....Ehm.Ost Deutsh,Ireland,Italy,Baskenland haben glaub ich genug pulver zum schiessen....plus of course the good old E.U
I mean I am joking here..but if Aphex can buy a Tank? ?
then I dont think weapons are to hard to come by illegally....
I also heard that one just has to wander down to the docks here and if you know the right guys you can pick up an UZI or an AK47 or a couple of Slavische Hand Grenades ganz billig...
Ok maybe not so cool but nethertheless quite easy to get hold of...
And the Gun Shops in Vienna are frightening enough for me!!!
ohje I am going ganz off topic......this is all about going to live in America and why its weird or not so sorry about that one....
Ahhhh a Breakbeat Kunde!!!!

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...hehe...

...i was referring to europe as the european union - as for the balcan or eastern countries you are for sure right!

...plus i was talking about legal weapons and getting weapons legally - illegal weapons and illegal weapon trade are major problems all around the world for sure!

...and as for the gunshops in vienna - true, true - was passing one yesterday and it IS frighteningl!!!

have just been reading something really interesting (and totally off topic ) :

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of all these countries european union has most weapons and sells most weapons to other countries.

frankly, i think there's a lot of hypocrisy in the way europeans react to american international policies. i mean, powerful european countries are not much better, probably only less powerful. actions of european governments contributed to many conflicts around the world, just as is the case with actions of the american goverment.

even with this last war, people here seem to have forgotten that several european countries sent their troops to support americans in iraq. as for the governments who refused to participate, i think it's only because they realised that americans wouldn't let them have any say in the policies they planned to implement after the war (the so-called "reconstruction" ). i'm also sure they would join americans even now only if they would get more power.

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of all these countries european union has most weapons and sells most weapons to other countries.

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na klar verkaufen die eu länder mehr waffen als die balkanländer, sie sind ja auch grösser und haben waffenindustrie, darum gings ja aber nicht, was legale waffen in privater hand betrifft ist laut statistik pro kopf die usa ganz vorne und länder wie serbien, kroatien, mazedonien aber auch georgien oder russland haben weit mehr waffen in privater hand als irgendein eu land, was ja logisch ist, nachdem in diesen ländern bis vor kurzem kriege stattfanden und eigentlich jeder bewaffnet ist/war.

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Reg.: May 2001
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...alles klar - sorry, dachte du beziehst dich auf das was ich geschrieben hab!

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Reg.: Jan 2003
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I would take a bet here and say that Russia has the nase vorn
with selling weapons!!!!!Tanks....Ground to Air missiles,Troop Trans,Landmines(or haben die Amis die nase vorn da??)
i mean if the russian army can make whole battalions dissapear in thin air,doesnt pay its troops and and and...
whatever.....its a sad planet we live on......

Anyway off topic again.....Jay...Cool mix (april mix)
check your PM cos a small suprise awaits you.....

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Also, ich würde tippen....

Viele leicht beeinflußbare Menschen =

easy fame
easy money
easy girlz (most important )

außerdem
wenig taxes


und wenns einem nimmer taugt dann ab nach Hause (siehe AdamF)...


Außerdem hab ich gehört in New York gibts auch ein paar normale Leute (halt ich aber für ein Gerücht )


GrSplf

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